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		<title>By: Enough is Enough: Why Christians must condemn fear-mongering. &#171; Nourish Blog&#8217;zine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enough is Enough: Why Christians must condemn fear-mongering. &#171; Nourish Blog&#8217;zine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reason that it matters that we understand who Bill Ayers is and is not is because this hubub is just the most recent example in a passive aggressive campaign narrative [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Okay City &#187; Weekly Reader: 13 October 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okay City &#187; Weekly Reader: 13 October 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nourish Blog&#039;Zine: Bill Ayers and What Isn&#039;t Being Talked About Tish deconstructs all this kerfluffle about Bill Ayers better than anyone in the mainstream media seems to have been able to, so far. My Photos   #flickr_badge_source_txt {padding:0; font: 11px Arial, Helvetica, Sans serif; color:#666666;} #flickr_badge_icon {display:block !important; margin:0 !important; border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0) !important;} #flickr_icon_td {padding:0 !important;} .flickr_badge_image {text-align:center !important;} .flickr_badge_image img {border: 1px solid black !important;} #flickr_www {display:block; padding:0 !important; font: 11px Arial, Helvetica, Sans serif !important; color:#3993ff !important;} #flickr_badge_uber_wrapper a:hover, #flickr_badge_uber_wrapper a:link, #flickr_badge_uber_wrapper a:active, #flickr_badge_uber_wrapper a:visited {text-decoration:none !important; background:inherit !important;color:#3993ff;} #flickr_badge_wrapper {background-color:#ffffff;border: solid 1px #ffffff} #flickr_badge_source {padding:0 !important; font: 11px Arial, Helvetica, Sans serif !important; color:#666666 !important;}   www.flickr.com       Shamelessness Blog Network:Name:Okay CityTopics:photography, humor, petsJoin my networkBlog Networks   &#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy, welcome back!  Hope y&#039;all are doing well.  I&#039;ve got a few thoughts on this piece, if you&#039;ll indulge me...

First off, to quibble over whether Ayers was a &quot;terrorist&quot; is semantics.  I think it&#039;s safe to refer to him as having been a domestic terrorist.  Just because he didn&#039;t target people, doesn&#039;t make him less of a terrorist.  The so called Eco-Terrorists do not target people, but cause millions of dollars in damage and are still in that category.  Is Ayers still a terrorist?  No, but to use that term as the definition of what he was is apt.  I do agree, however, that the McCain campaign&#039;s rhetoric on it has been heavy handed and unfair. 

Second, I&#039;m quite fed up too with the constant focus on Ayers, Wright, etc and the ignoring of policy.  I thought this could be a different type of election where both candidates would be able to have an honest debate on what is best for our country.  What a disapointment.

Third, Ayers connection to Obama is important, but not in the sense the McCain campaign has made it.  I do not think they are all that close and I do not think that this is proof Obama hates America or that he has some secret political agenda.  I do think it shows Obama to be more politics as usual, though, and not the Change he claims to be.  You&#039;re right in saying that Ayers is a powerful political influence in Chicago and anyone on the left that wants a footing there politically would need his support.  What it shows is that Obama didn&#039;t stand on principle and eschew politics as usual, instead he used who he had to and took every chance no matter how suspect or unprincipled it might be.  I think Obama is simply another liberal pragmatist politician who is playing by the same old rules.  This wouldn&#039;t be a problem if he hadn&#039;t built his entire campaign on change.

Finally, let me just say, I&#039;m not happy with either candidate.  They both have their good and their bad, but we need so much more now.  I don&#039;t expect the perfect candidate, but I did expect something different this time around with two candidates claiming to be about change and foregoing politics as usual.  Unfortunately it has been usual, when what we really needed was something truly different.

That&#039;s just my $0.02.  I look forward to your continuing election coverage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy, welcome back!  Hope y&#8217;all are doing well.  I&#8217;ve got a few thoughts on this piece, if you&#8217;ll indulge me&#8230;</p>
<p>First off, to quibble over whether Ayers was a &#8220;terrorist&#8221; is semantics.  I think it&#8217;s safe to refer to him as having been a domestic terrorist.  Just because he didn&#8217;t target people, doesn&#8217;t make him less of a terrorist.  The so called Eco-Terrorists do not target people, but cause millions of dollars in damage and are still in that category.  Is Ayers still a terrorist?  No, but to use that term as the definition of what he was is apt.  I do agree, however, that the McCain campaign&#8217;s rhetoric on it has been heavy handed and unfair. </p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;m quite fed up too with the constant focus on Ayers, Wright, etc and the ignoring of policy.  I thought this could be a different type of election where both candidates would be able to have an honest debate on what is best for our country.  What a disapointment.</p>
<p>Third, Ayers connection to Obama is important, but not in the sense the McCain campaign has made it.  I do not think they are all that close and I do not think that this is proof Obama hates America or that he has some secret political agenda.  I do think it shows Obama to be more politics as usual, though, and not the Change he claims to be.  You&#8217;re right in saying that Ayers is a powerful political influence in Chicago and anyone on the left that wants a footing there politically would need his support.  What it shows is that Obama didn&#8217;t stand on principle and eschew politics as usual, instead he used who he had to and took every chance no matter how suspect or unprincipled it might be.  I think Obama is simply another liberal pragmatist politician who is playing by the same old rules.  This wouldn&#8217;t be a problem if he hadn&#8217;t built his entire campaign on change.</p>
<p>Finally, let me just say, I&#8217;m not happy with either candidate.  They both have their good and their bad, but we need so much more now.  I don&#8217;t expect the perfect candidate, but I did expect something different this time around with two candidates claiming to be about change and foregoing politics as usual.  Unfortunately it has been usual, when what we really needed was something truly different.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just my $0.02.  I look forward to your continuing election coverage!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also interesting to me that while the GOP is crowing over Obama&#039;s loose association with Ayers, no one is talking about the fact that Sarah Palin&#039;s husband was a member for years of the Alaska Independence Party that advocated Alaskan independence, by political action if possible and by taking up arms if not, and that as Governor, Sarah Palin recorded a welcome message to the AIP earlier this year that praised them highly. 

I think it has something to do with the fact that the Obama camp is busy actually spelling out a plan and a message for this country, and McCain can&#039;t seem to be bothered to do the same.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to me that while the GOP is crowing over Obama&#8217;s loose association with Ayers, no one is talking about the fact that Sarah Palin&#8217;s husband was a member for years of the Alaska Independence Party that advocated Alaskan independence, by political action if possible and by taking up arms if not, and that as Governor, Sarah Palin recorded a welcome message to the AIP earlier this year that praised them highly. </p>
<p>I think it has something to do with the fact that the Obama camp is busy actually spelling out a plan and a message for this country, and McCain can&#8217;t seem to be bothered to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: sarahbuildsbridges</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarahbuildsbridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said, t.  thanks for bringing the fruits of your research to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said, t.  thanks for bringing the fruits of your research to us.</p>
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		<title>By: THW</title>
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		<dc:creator>THW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, thanks for posting jdw2000. I have no idea how you found me, but appreciate the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, thanks for posting jdw2000. I have no idea how you found me, but appreciate the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: THW</title>
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		<dc:creator>THW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of fairness and fully representing the truth, I thought it important that I post your comment.  
Few things in response:
1. As I said, no doubt, what the Weathermen did was terribly wrong, immoral, and evil.  But this bombing described in the article happened before the death of Bill Ayers&#039;s girlfriend.  According to the documentary I&#039;ve seen and the websites that I&#039;ve read (the two places I got the information for this post, which admittedly, could be wrong) Ayers&#039;s and other Weathermen claim that after that event their views on bombing changed and they intentionally attempted to avoid it from that point forward.  
2. In this article, Ayers tries to clarify his remarks and says he DOES have regrets:  http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/17/bill_ayers_has_a_blog_and_regr.html
3.  Also, he has a blog, so readers can decide for themselves what they think of him: http://billayers.wordpress.com/
4.  I didn&#039;t extensively research this blog post...I just watched a documentary and read like 12 websites so no one should take my word for this... the point is do research, even meager research, and decide what you think, don&#039;t take Sarah Palin&#039;s word for it.  
5. I found this to be helpful:http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/william_c_ayers/index.html?scp=1-spot&amp;sq=bill%20ayers&amp;st=cse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of fairness and fully representing the truth, I thought it important that I post your comment.<br />
Few things in response:<br />
1. As I said, no doubt, what the Weathermen did was terribly wrong, immoral, and evil.  But this bombing described in the article happened before the death of Bill Ayers&#8217;s girlfriend.  According to the documentary I&#8217;ve seen and the websites that I&#8217;ve read (the two places I got the information for this post, which admittedly, could be wrong) Ayers&#8217;s and other Weathermen claim that after that event their views on bombing changed and they intentionally attempted to avoid it from that point forward.<br />
2. In this article, Ayers tries to clarify his remarks and says he DOES have regrets:  <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/17/bill_ayers_has_a_blog_and_regr.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/17/bill_ayers_has_a_blog_and_regr.html</a><br />
3.  Also, he has a blog, so readers can decide for themselves what they think of him: <a href="http://billayers.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://billayers.wordpress.com/</a><br />
4.  I didn&#8217;t extensively research this blog post&#8230;I just watched a documentary and read like 12 websites so no one should take my word for this&#8230; the point is do research, even meager research, and decide what you think, don&#8217;t take Sarah Palin&#8217;s word for it.<br />
5. I found this to be helpful:http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/william_c_ayers/index.html?scp=1-spot&amp;sq=bill%20ayers&amp;st=cse</p>
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		<title>By: jdw2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdw2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend that you read this article and see if your mind changes on any of your points.
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend that you read this article and see if your mind changes on any of your points.<br />
<a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html</a></p>
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